Skill Set Review
Birgit Pfisterer
Clarification of the original feature request, the visibility of skill set reviews (SSR). The SSR should only be visible to the following persons or authorization roles:
- subject/assessed persons in their personal area
- “All Permissions” permission role
- Authorization roles with access to personnel > “extended personnel rights”
- Authorization roles with access to personnel > “Employees: contract information (salary), MA talks, documents”
Arne Semmler
Merged in a post:
Separation of comment adjustment and employee insight
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Schleimer, Niklas
Currently, employees cannot be separately given permission to adjust the time recording comments (so that they can adjust the time journal comments in a way that is understandable to the customer).
Instead, this authorization is currently inextricably linked to being able to see all employee data, such as vacation entitlement and overtime.
We ask you to separate these permissions.
Thank you so much
Arne Semmler
Skill Set Reviews are currently not part of projo's “core scope” and are currently not officially supported. We may add this feature to projo's standard range of functions in the future. It is currently considered an “unsupported feature.”
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Simon Winkler
Arne Semmler Hi Arne,
Thank you for this feedback. Is there a presentation somewhere where you can see the “unsupported features”? Unfortunately, we subsequently regarded the SkillSet Reviews as an integral part of them and also used them quite extensively with internal data (as feedback for our salary matrix), which is why the function described by Birgit is now relatively important for us to fully use Projo - because we want Div. Project managers may have access to the Employees/General area, e.g. to be able to make adjustments to MA's time descriptions from their teams for billing special services, etc.
In the current - unchangeable - setting, the SkillSet reviews now also appear here, including all comments, etc. that are not intended for the eyes of the project managers. We can therefore not give our PL the authorization they should actually have, because the skillset reviews always appear.
Arne Semmler
Simon Winkler: important point from you. We are actually currently working on making this previously rather internal matrix of what we regard as core functions and what not more visible in the product, as communication exclusively via the user group is clearly no longer sufficient. As a guideline until then, functions that must first be activated in the settings are suspected of being “unsupported features” - but not all, of course. We would then have to reach agreement again for your acute problem. Perhaps there is a technically simple “hack” for that. I'll discuss this with DEV.
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Simon Winkler
Arne Semmler Thank you very much, I really appreciate that + we would actually be completely happy if it could be easily deactivated using a “hack” or mini patch.
Arne Semmler
Simon Winkler: Thank you, feel free to contact us again if you don't hear from us about this!
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Simon Winkler
Arne Semmler Hi Arne,
We have now found a solution to the issue that is not really obvious.
The problem that project managers can view employee data (regardless of whether SkillSets or not, but also all times of the person, which is particularly difficult at GF) has bothered us.
The solution is “Authorizations” -> “Personnel” -> “Employees: General, Times, Absence, Capacity”.
Until now, we have always checked “Read” -> “Members of my project teams” for Read | Write. This leads to all the bad side effects mentioned here.
However, if you leave the checkmark here to “No” and set “Write” to “All”, you have achieved what is required here:
- Employees cannot be viewed via the office area
- The only option that a project manager then has is to be able to change the time comments in the ALLEN MA project, but not the time itself (which is also correct).
- The SkillSet review authorization thus fades into the background because access to the MA itself is not possible through the PL anyway
- “All” is checked for the reason that it also allows periods of, for example, inactive employees or people who are no longer assigned to the project to be written and edited.